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Selva Lee Tucker 
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
|  7/30/2008 1:19:22 AM 
buckling 101,
no cupping, no gaps,
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Selva Lee Tucker
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
| 7/30/2008 9:57:51 PM
rh, 68@88f
mc, 11 to 12,
is it at emc?
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Roger Gerber
Posts: 327
Since: 3/17/2008
| 7/30/2008 11:12:01 PM
It looks like the center is ready for take-off.
No A/C?
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Jerry Thomas
Posts: 96
Since: 6/3/2008
| 7/31/2008 3:37:12 AM
Come on Selva  ..... whats underneath that mess? Most problems start from the bottom.
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Selva Lee Tucker
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
| 8/1/2008 11:28:08 AM
I know I can count on JERRY!
mc, 20%, subfloor,
mc, in house, 12% avg.
Rh in crawl space, 74% @ 80,
plastic put down two weeks ago,
Rh in house, windows open, 68% @ 90f,
construction still in progress,,,,
wood was installed in the spring,,,reportedly on site for two or
more weeks before installation,
buckled three to four weeks ago,
Jerry, do you want to take it from here? two things can happen
here and will happen here,
Last Edited 8/1/2008
11:35:32 AM
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John Draper
Posts: 76
Since: 10/29/2007
| 8/1/2008 12:47:13 PM
when will they get the hint that wood goes in last when the AC is no
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Jerry Thomas
Posts: 96
Since: 6/3/2008
| 8/2/2008 3:21:48 AM
Once all that drys out it will have to be grouted 
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David Kern
Posts: 518
Since: 2/20/2008
| 8/2/2008 11:14:13 PM
The fact that you could drive a truck under that make-shift straight-edge might leave some the impression that the floor wasn't flat to begin with.
Especially since you mentioned that there were no gaps (as evidenced in the photo). Also from the photo, the wood looks tight, and nicely staggered.
But then again, I could be missing something...
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Selva Lee Tucker
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
| 8/3/2008 12:49:34 PM
no, it is buckled from moisture gain,
on site, MC is in the region's emc range by the chart,,,,near the
coast,
crawl space,
when they turn in the AC, it will condition the air, and then, a
moisture imbalance, what happens?
then, as time goes by, it will, as Jerry said, have to be grouted,
and if they continue the way they are, more and more moisture
issues from below
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 8/3/2008 8:38:49 PM
What if it was glued to concrete and it was engineered, would it sitll grow like that..... on a slab....with some ham....green eggs and ham....Sam I am?
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Darian Brown
Posts: 712
Since: 2/5/2008
| 8/3/2008 9:35:44 PM
Doesn't every thing grow with water?
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 8/5/2008 5:59:52 PM
Looks to me like they are still working on the house huh? New construction?
I have to wonder in this information age we live in is how can a builder NOT know how to protect the flooring and subfloor? And the wood guys say nothing and do not check prior to installation????
Amazing
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Roger Gerber
Posts: 327
Since: 3/17/2008
| 8/5/2008 10:19:02 PM
And Selva told me that the manufacturer came to the jobsite with no moisture meters.
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 8/6/2008 7:28:51 PM
No moisture meters? Are they too expensive for manufactures to supply to their reps? I know since I bought my professional kit from Tramex several years ago the price has gone up three fold. But the manufactures expect your run of the mill installer/contractor to have one and the reps do not? Maybe they just do not know how to use them?
Whats up with that?
I've personally spoken to several reps about issues I have had with their product. The guys may be great salesmen but actually do not know not very much about installation and manufacturing issues.
Why?
Because the manufactures want to hire warm bodies that have degrees in business and not necessarily flooring experience,
That said, I have also spoken to reps who know everything about their product and how it is to be installed, even those grey areas. Kudos to the wood adhesive people!
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Selva Lee Tucker
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
| 8/7/2008 11:00:46 PM
here you go, rant and raving,,,,and I thought, you were going to
be, "moderate"
the mill is a small operation, and he has no idea what to do or
how,,,,how a man could go into a biz without the basic knowledge
is beyond me, but, I guess, it is on the job training.
long day, will fuss at you tomorrow, Mr. Moderator!
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 8/8/2008 9:47:45 AM
That was a pre-mod rant Grumpy. I suppose everyone involved is getting schooled by Mr. Tucker.
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Selva Lee Tucker
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
| 8/8/2008 7:00:57 PM
yep,
you are right,
later
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